UUPP 003: Carrie Stewart Discusses New Jim Crow Classes and Role As A Smart Church Consultant

Sharon Narrell hosts UU Perspective Podcast with Carrie Stewart, New Jim Crow Classes and Smart Church consultant



Carrie Stewart – Facilitator of  the New  Jim Crow Classes and  Smart Church  Consultant

New Jim Crow Classes (quick summary)

Because of mass incarceration we have the New Jim Crow. Black Americans are imprisoned at a higher rate than whites. Drugs are used at the same rate for all races but blacks are incarcerated at the highest rate.

The New Jim Crow Classes: Tracks can range from a weekend to a 6 week program.

Based on six chapters of Michelle Alexander’s,  The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, each chapter takes you through the different pieces that have been put together to make mass incarceration effective in a way as Michelle puts it, at making a co-class of citizens you don’t have to care about.

The impact: People are shocked! The way Michelle Alexander connects the dots, we see over time the slow erosion of our civil rights…

New Jim Crow resource 

Smart Church (quick summary)

The term Smart Church developed from the reference to the family system theory. It’s about creating healthy congregations by implementing congregational systems.

Goals can include bringing cohesiveness and communication. The benefit can be greater member retention.

People naturally avoid conflict. If members leave, sometimes the conflict can stay.

There are many congregations that may need this without realizing it. Leaders try to use everything within their knowledge to get things done, but yet struggle without some of these specific skills that could guide them to a healthier church.

Want more info? Visit: Smart Church Consultants 


Carrie Stewart is the Owner and Principal of One World Consulting, Carrie has served various communities and organizations in their quest for greater understanding, and inclusion of diverse individuals.

A lifelong UU, Carrie has been a child, youth, member and friend of 13 congregations in 6 districts. She currently serves as a SWUUC and Southern Region Consultant specializing in anti-racism, anti-oppression and multiculturalism, conflict transformation, leadership, Compassionate Communication and Healthy Congregations. Additionally, she serves on the SWUUC Board, The Journey Toward Wholeness Transformation Committee of the UUA, the UU Allies for Racial Equality Steering Committee, and is a DBLE Staff member. She holds a bachelor’s degree in American Studies from Smith College, and a masters in Communication from Rutgers University. Carrie and her spouse are raising two, third generation UU teens in Colleyville, TX where they enjoy movies, theater, music, Saturday Night Live, travel (especially to water), and their two dogs.

Carrie’s Favorite Quote:

Our deepest Fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. – Mary Ann Williamson

Carrie’s Answer To The Question:

How is Unitarian Universalism as a religious denomination uniquely positioned to serve and impact society? Carrie says if we make racism and social justice the corner-stone of our work, we can literally change the world.


contact Carrie: 

Carrie L. Stewart, M.C.I.S.

One World Consulting

5407 Sycamore Court   Austin, Texas  76034

817-685-2542(H)   512-350-9030(O/M) OneWorldConsulting@swbell.net


Books of interest:

The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness by Michelle Alexander

Get the paperback version as it has the forward by Cornel West (2015 GA Ware Lecturer)

The New Jim Crow Study Guide and Call to Action

Healthy Congregations: a Systems Approach by Peter Steinke

Congregational Leadership in Anxious Times: Being Calm and Courageous No Matter What

Final Credits: music thanks to

“Carefree”, “Open Those Bright Eyes”, “Sweeter Vermouth”
Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0

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